- - - Explain the significance of Winston's conversation with the old man in the pub.
- - - Explain the significance of Winston's encounter in the junk shop.
- - - Looking at Book One as a whole, explain the significance of the text as it stands right now.
The significance is that the old man has lived through the times when there was not people telling you what to do all the time. The Party has also changed the books so this old man may unlock all the lies that The Party has told in the books that the people read. The significance of the encounter was it was a man like the one he had met at the pub any remembered the days when people did what they wanted. It is also important because Winston visits a room and notices that there is no telescreen and the man said he never bothered to have one. It shows that Winston met another person who was alive when times were different. The significance of the text in book one is we only heard really negative things until the end so maybe the book picks up and becomes happy. We also are only seeing the book as wondering what times were like and nobody really knows except a few people. The text is important because it very layed back and nobody is taking action to try and change the way people live.
ReplyDeleteThe conversation Winston has with the old man in the pub is a risky situation Winston puts himself in. This shows Winston desperately wants to learn about the past and how life was before the Party. By the old man focusing on the details rather than main events, this foreshadows the proles will lose the ability to coherently remember and share the past.
ReplyDeleteWinston's encounter in the junk shop is a key event in Part VIII. He remembers visiting the shop before when he purchased his journal. The shop is most likely one of the only places left that contains items from the past. The shop owner, Mr. Charrington, shows Winston a painting of a church. Winston realizes many of the historical buildings have been repurposed for benefit of the Party. The visit to the shop fuels Winston's search for what the past was like before the reign of the Party.
Book One sets up the feeling of dehumanization. Orwell uses contrast to deliver this theme. The text has mentioned some characters, such as O'Brien and the dark-haired girl, which will probably be further developed in the next books. Orwell mainly focuses on Winston and his thirst for rebellion against the Party and the truth about the past. Book One creates the setting foundation the rest of the books will stand on.
The old man in the pub represents the stereotypical Prole population. He is uneducated, with a short attention span and an inability to focus on important, general concepts. Winston learns nothing of value and realizes his revolution by Proles theory is not quite attainable. However, what the conversation does reveal is that Winston is not afraid to take risks and that he will not only think differently than the others, but he will act on the thoughts as well. He intentionally allows himself to be thrust into a potentially dangerous situation to gather some knowledge about the past.
ReplyDeleteWinston's visits to the junk shop are a reference to his attraction to materials and ideas of the past. However, Winston also experiences an epiphany where he realizes he could use the top room for perhaps a hideout. This may be foreshadowing that he rents the room out in the coming events of the novel. When Winston exits, he solidifies his notion that the dark-haired woman from the Fiction Department is spying on him. His interest in the girl will undoubtedly prove an obstacle for him later in the novel.
Book One introduces a conflict, the oppression of Big Brother's political regime. Additionally, it establishes the setting of a dreary, dirty dystopian atmosphere, and some of Winston's character traits. Essentially, it sets up everything so that later events and actions will make sense. Without all of this information, the reader would not quite understand character motivations or subtle nuances of theme.
The significance of Winston's conversation in the pub is that the old man is a possible link to the past. He tries to see if in the days before the Party if the people were really as exploited by capitalists as the Party claims. The significance of Winston's visit to the junk shop is that it stands as a museum of the past in relation to the rest of Winston's history deprived world. These chapters so far have focused on the work life of the minor party members. Orwell shifts the focus to the world of the poor. Book one has set the mood and has laid out themes that will progress through the rest of the book.
ReplyDelete1) Winston's conversation with the old man in the pub shows why the proles would be unable to start a rebellion. When Winston sees the man, he realizes that he is old enough to have been middle-aged before the Revolution. Winston the begins to question thee man on the past, but he is unable to answer the questions. The man remembers specific details of certain random events, but cannot recall if the past was better than the present. Winston then goes on to explain that this is how the memory is with most of the proles. The lack of memory shows that the proles are under the same control as members of the Party. Throughout the rest of the conversation, the man verifies the stories told by the Party, but does not address anything else. This shows the control the Party has on the proles and why they cannot start a rebellion.
ReplyDelete2)Winston's encounter in the junk shop demonstrates his individuality and how he is different from other citizens. He purchases the glass paperweight because he believes it is beautiful, which is something other citizens would not do. Winston is now in possession of two items that will raise suspicions from the patrols. While at the shop, he also thinks about renting the room in the upper level. These thoughts show how dangerous Winston could be to the Party. it also shows that he is beginning to grow reckless in his decisions, which may result in punishment from the Party.
3) The text so far is significant because it requires readers to think about the government now. The ideas and situations discussed in the book could possibly happen at any time in the future. A controlling government like the one in "1984" is a very real idea that people should be aware of. The book discusses topics that provoke thought from readers and show them how easily people are fooled. The book so far has discussed the power of children in a society, the power of technology, and how quick people are to believe what they are told. The text teaches realistic themes and establishes thought provoking questions that are necessary for all people to understand.
Winston's encounter with the old man in the pub hold great significance. The conversation erases Winston's last bit of belief that revolution lies within the proles. He realizes that these people are extremely uneducated, distracted, and have other priorities. The proles are not concerned with the current government system but trivial things, like pints versus liters or the lottery. His conversation shows that although the old man may be a prole he too has no clear recollection of the past. The old man shows how the proles have no sense of attention or direction. The man could not answer Winston's questions without running off on a tangent. His conversation shows that some relics from the past are not always reliable sources.The conversation proves to frustrate Winston's last belief or peace in the fact that revolution will come from others. He realizes in some sense that he will have to do the work and make due with what he can find himself.
ReplyDeleteWinston's encounter at the shop helps to convey his admiration for relics of the past. He sees beauty in what has been. Winston manages to find a solid source of the past in the shopkeeper. The reader sees Winston dive further into his imminent death. By going to the shop, he is only furthering his death wish. The shopkeeper provides another person for Winston to ponder. Initially, the keeper appears to be vastly different from the other proles, but then Winston and the reader see that he has the same needs/desires as the rest. The shopkeeper's first and main priority is to survive and make enough money to get by. The scene also leaves the reader with questions of the future. The reader wonders whether Winston will work himself to the point where he will rent out the top portion of the shop. There is also the brunette woman from the Ministry that causing some questions. The reader wonders whether she was following Winston, what Winston will do, and how will this relationship evolve. The scene in the junk shop provides a springboard into the next half of the novel. It leaves the reader with loose ends to tie and questions that need to be answered.
Book One as a whole provides the reader with questions for the future. The reader is left wondering so many things and can only hope to find the answer in future text. Orwell throughout Book One has kept the reader on his or her toes because he or she can not find anything truly definite within the novel. Book One also sets up some of the major themes of the book. The reader sees Winston as the lone person in society looking to make a change. As the book progresses, the reader will be able to see whether one person can change society. Orwell presents the reader with a society full of uncertainty and lack of a past. He sets the reader up with the same amount of information as everyone else in the novel. Orwell wants the reader to see what it is like to live in an uninformed society. The process of dehumanization is also explored in the first portion of the book. This will more than likely provide a major theme as the novel unfolds. The reader sees how a lack of emotion can lead to a dull and disdainful society. The power of fear, propaganda, and repression are explored as well. Book One, as a whole, provides background knowledge, questions, and the beginnings of major themes for the reader to follow.
Winston's encounter with the old man in the pub hold great significance. The conversation erases Winston's last bit of belief that revolution lies within the proles. He realizes that these people are extremely uneducated, distracted, and have other priorities. The proles are not concerned with the current government system but trivial things, like pints versus liters or the lottery. His conversation shows that although the old man may be a prole he too has no clear recollection of the past. The old man shows how the proles have no sense of attention or direction. The man could not answer Winston's questions without running off on a tangent. His conversation shows that some relics from the past are not always reliable sources.The conversation proves to frustrate Winston's last belief or peace in the fact that revolution will come from others. He realizes in some sense that he will have to do the work and make due with what he can find himself.
ReplyDeleteWinston's encounter at the shop helps to convey his admiration for relics of the past. He sees beauty in what has been. Winston manages to find a solid source of the past in the shopkeeper. The reader sees Winston dive further into his imminent death. By going to the shop, he is only furthering his death wish. The shopkeeper provides another person for Winston to ponder. Initially, the keeper appears to be vastly different from the other proles, but then Winston and the reader see that he has the same needs/desires as the rest. The shopkeeper's first and main priority is to survive and make enough money to get by. The scene also leaves the reader with questions of the future. The reader wonders whether Winston will work himself to the point where he will rent out the top portion of the shop. There is also the brunette woman from the Ministry that causing some questions. The reader wonders whether she was following Winston, what Winston will do, and how will this relationship evolve. The scene in the junk shop provides a springboard into the next half of the novel. It leaves the reader with loose ends to tie and questions that need to be answered.
Book One as a whole provides the reader with questions for the future. The reader is left wondering so many things and can only hope to find the answer in future text. Orwell throughout Book One has kept the reader on his or her toes because he or she can not find anything truly definite within the novel. Book One also sets up some of the major themes of the book. The reader sees Winston as the lone person in society looking to make a change. As the book progresses, the reader will be able to see whether one person can change society. Orwell presents the reader with a society full of uncertainty and lack of a past. He sets the reader up with the same amount of information as everyone else in the novel. Orwell wants the reader to see what it is like to live in an uninformed society. The process of dehumanization is also explored in the first portion of the book. This will more than likely provide a major theme as the novel unfolds. The reader sees how a lack of emotion can lead to a dull and disdainful society. The power of fear, propaganda, and repression are explored as well. Book One, as a whole, provides background knowledge, questions, and the beginnings of major themes for the reader to follow.
Question 1: Winston's conversation with the old man is quite significant to the house. This conversations shows that the proles do not focus on the important things in their lives. They are too blind and unconscious to notice their oppression. Winston greatly hints to the old man about his purpose of the conversation, but the old man doesn't get it. Winston then goes on to directly tell readers that the proles do not think about the oppression and only on petty things. This idea shows how blindly loyal the proles are to the Party due to the propaganda and lies.
ReplyDeleteQuestion 2: Winston's encounter in the junk shop further develops his passion for the past. This passion is that he wants to know what life was like before the Revolution. The antiques themselves show how much the Party had influenced society. The Party has taken away all individualism and uniqueness in society. The fact that society has completely reversed in a few years shows how influential the fear and propaganda is on the people.
Question 3: Book one has established the central conflict, themes, and background information the readers need for Book Two. As the readers have seen, the central conflict in Book One is The Party's totalitarian rule and the citizens' blindly obeying them. These conflicts then lead to the two main themes that have been established so far. The first theme is that blind obedience is caused by unconsciousness, fear, and propaganda. This can be seen in the people's response to the Two Minutes of Hate and the Thought Police. The people blindly follow the Party because they throw lies at the people and they willingly accept it. Fear of the Though Police controls the people and forces them to obey. The second theme is that fear keeps people from acting out of expressing their opinion. Like the first theme, this can be seen in the Though Police and telescreens. Winston is very fearful of acting out because he believes that he is always being observed. This can also be seen in every Party member that doesn't fully trust the Party. Finally, Book One has established vital background knowledge in the book. Many parts of chapters are dedicated to explaining life in Oceania, such as the job of altering history and the background of the proles. This provides readers with vital information that helps develop theme and emerging conflicts. Without this information, readers would be lost and could not fully understand the message of the book.
The significance of Winston's conversation with the old man in the pub is that it shows that the past is truly a mystery. Oceania has little access to the past and lack of positively true written records. Although, the old man's lack of major knowledge of the past shows that the past is a mystery. Orwell is trying to show the reader that everything we believe to know could merely be someone manipulating your mind in order to make you believe something that may not even remotely be true.
ReplyDeleteWinston's encounter at the junk shop is important because it foreshadows the future and advances the plot significantly. The shopkeeper shows Winston a room upstairs that particularly interests him. The room looks as though it could potentially be a safe haven for him further in the book as the room has no telescreen. The plot also significantly advances as a result of the dark haired woman. The woman seeing Winston means two things. Winston's safety has been severely endangered as a result of what will likely end being the dark haired woman snitching him to the Thought police. Also, Winston has become paranoid as a result and may actually accidentally turn himself in for his actions.
So far the significance of book one is that it portrays the setting, plot, and general atmosphere of the story and foreshadows the future. The book describes Oceania as a dark, gloomy place just after a revolution of some sort that made the country "better". The plot revolves around Winston Smith, a man who seems to be (positively) alone in his rebel like thoughts on the Party. Oceania is a land where the people have been brainwashed into believing the Party's lies. The citizens have little to no emotions, possess no individualized thoughts, and know nothing of the past. Lastly, book one ended on the scene with the dark haired woman, which foreshadows future problems with Winston being snitched to the thought police.
The significance of the conversation in the pub was to show that nobody really knows what the truth is and what isn't. The old man never answered a single question directly and always seemed to add some meaningless fact in his story/answer. Big Brother got the truth so out of wack that even people that lived through that time aren't really sure what happened.
ReplyDeleteThe significance of the encounter in the junk shop was to show how Winston is doing something very dangerous by going in the proles side of town and he may be always being watched. It also shows though that Winston has committed to his own fate. He knew how dangerous was and what the penalties might be. By going there and not being afraid it shows him that he is confident and willing to pay the punishments for his decisions. Shows him that he isn't afraid of Big Brother like everyone else.
The significance of the text as it stands right now is showing how much the government power may be on us right now and without us knowing. And it takes a strong person like Winston to stand up against it.
ReplyDelete1. Winston’s conversation with the old man in the pub is significant because it shows that even first hand accounts of pre-revolutionary times are inaccurate. A man who lived during the time couldn’t answer the question to if life was better before the revolution. This shows that the party has almost complete control over history and their version of history is the truth.
2. Winston’s encounter in the junk shop is important because it almost contrary to the talk at the pub. At the pub little to no detail about pre-revolution life was acquired, but browsing through the junk shop Winston could see the past through objects. All accounts of history are controlled by the party, but the objects in the junk shop and the man that runs the shop could shed some light on the past for winston.
3. Book one is significant because it laid the framework for the story. It creates the setting and tone for the story to develop too. It shows the party of the all controlling government that leads through fear. But there is an individual rebellion starting in Winston. He is creating ideas within himself that completely question the party. He is starting to become unsure of the how much of what the party says is true. He already knows that facts and figures are adjusted to make the government correct, but no he questioning why they do this. He is starting to light the fuse of a potential rebellion if his ideas spread.
The conversation with Winston and the old man shows the focus of the Proles. It explains what they focus their lives around, such as the Lottery, going to bars, and having friends. It distinctly expresses the differences between the Proles and everyone else. Also, it shows how much freedom the Proles have. The old man is able to remember little facts about his younger life and is capable of reminiscing. It helps the reader realize the complete differences in the lives of the two and how the Proles do not concern themselves with the little details of life like the rest of the people do. This conversation also proves how the past is almost completely forgotten and will not be remembered unless there is some sort of record of it because memory is never perfect.
ReplyDeleteThe junk shop illustrates how Winston first got his idea of revolution and changing the society he lives in. The junk shop contains a lot of antiques that the Proles do not take interest in and would never want. However, because Winston was never allowed to obtain any sort of item that the junk store has, he is fascinated by the littlest things. This scene shows how the simplest things can cause a spark of interest in Winston and the others because they have never been exposed to anything besides what the Party allows them to see and purchase, which is hardly anything. The junk store opens Winston's mind up to the possibilities of the future and encourages him to finish his diary and to pursue a change.
Part 1 is the beginning of how one person can have a vision and capable of striving to achieve it. It shows Winston believing in himself to make a change in society and attempting to figure out ways to accomplish it. Also, it shows how when someone wants something bad enough, they will work towards it, no matter the consequences. Winston has slightly overcome his fear of being taken by the Thought Police as long as he is working towards forming a revolution and that someone accepts his views about the Party.
The old man in the pub and the ensuing conversation he has with Winston signifies what is left of the old civilization. It signifies that no one has a clear grasp on the past, not even the oldest percent of the population. The past is lost to everyone, and the memories that the old man has reflect the memories society has. They are bits and pieces of useless information that have nothing to do with old society. The people will never revolt because they will never know what life was like. They, like the old man, know that there was life before the party, but cannot remember it.
ReplyDeleteThe significance of the junk shop is that it is a gateway to the past. A remnant that has survived under the Party. The true significance comes from the pull it has to Winston. HIs need to know history shows that he is not satisfied with the Party’s lies. He buys the journal and paperweight so that he can feel connected to the past. He thinks that somehow they will give him clues to his past. Not only this but the shopkeeper gives Winston another glimpse of the past that spurs new thoughts. The rhyme with the church is foreshadowing to a later event that will happen at one of the places. The items, its attraction, and the rhyme Winston learns are all significant to the story.
Book One as whole was an exposition to the novel. It introduced all of the main ideas and environment. Book One shows Winston’s character which is important to the story. It also shows the Proles and the lives of the members of the Party. Most importantly it shows the absolute power and lack of power the Party has. While the Party controls everything, and apparently even people’s thoughts, they cannot prevent Winston from questioning history or wanting more information on the past. They do not control the Proles, where eighty-five percent of the population lives, but they the people fear the Party, therefore they have absolute power. Now, in the second book, the plot is expected to turn and begin its rising action, due to the fact that all of Book One was exposition.
Winstons experience at the junk yard and with the old man are crucial in this book. Winston has been all for the poroles having to start the revolution and that they are almost their only hope. But in his recent encounterments he is starting to realize that they are oblivious to everything. They are more interested in the lottery than they are whenever a bomb went off. So this shows that they are not capable to start a rebellion nor are they interested in it.
ReplyDeleteThere is a significance in book one so far. It sets the book up for more to come. Mainly in this book, it shows Winstons opinions, thoughts and what daily life is like. This will lead to probable actions being done in book two and three
Winstons experience at the junk yard and with the old man are crucial in this book. Winston has been all for the poroles having to start the revolution and that they are almost their only hope. But in his recent encounterments he is starting to realize that they are oblivious to everything. They are more interested in the lottery than they are whenever a bomb went off. So this shows that they are not capable to start a rebellion nor are they interested in it.
ReplyDeleteThere is a significance in book one so far. It sets the book up for more to come. Mainly in this book, it shows Winstons opinions, thoughts and what daily life is like. This will lead to probable actions being done in book two and three
The conversation that Winston had with the old man at the pub shows that even the elderly have begun to forget the true events that took place in the past. This shows just how much the party has taken over the thoughts and lives of the average citizen. It also illustrates how the proles live. During his conversation, we constantly hear the proles talking about the lottery as if it is their only means to life. This shows thaat they are completely oblivious to the events go on around them.
ReplyDeleteWinston sees the dark haired girl outside of the junk shop and proceeds to flip out and think about ending his life. He believes that she was spying on him and will inevitabley tell the thought police. However, it is possible that she was doing something suspicious herself. Again we see that Winston sees big brothers face and proceeds to think of the ministries slogan again. This again implies that brainwashing has been done.
Right now the text has done a good job of introducing characters and themes into the book. Orwell has established the dystopian society that Winston lives in and has also dropped hints of brainwashing withing the people. Orwell has also talked about the idea of a rebellion. He shows in book one the events that could lead into a rebellion against the party and the ministries.
The significance of Winston's conversation with the old man in the pub is, when Winston goes there he talks to the man and wants to know about the Proles. He is angry because the man talks about personal memories and Winston wants him to focus on the Proles because be believes they hold the true details of history.
ReplyDeleteThe junk shop is not a "junk shop" it's really an antique store where people could buy things from the time before the war. It is significant because it is here where Winston is reminded of a time before Big Brother and it is here where he gets discovered and captured.
Looking at Book one as a whole, the significance of the book is explain what the party is and the party is capable of doing to the people. It also explains what the Proles do, and how the Proles can take over the Party government, because they believe they are capable of over ruling them. It shows the significance of many things like the party and the Proles, and the thought polices and the people of Oceania.
In the pub, Winston meets an old man who is from the past, but has a difficult time recalling anything besides meaningless facts. Winston thought he could possibly get some information on the truth about the past, but this proves it is a hopeless cause. This old man was Winston's best chance at discovering the truth about the past, and not it is obvious this is not a possible task. The conversation at the pub signifies the complete takeover of Big Brother and the inability to go back to the old way of life.
ReplyDeleteAfter the pub, Winston goes to the junk shop where he bought the diary. The junk shop and Mr. Charrington are relics of the past and have been unchanged with the world. This encounter means that Winston might be able to live in the present, but act like its the past. The junk shop and everything about it remind him of the old days, so maybe Winston doesn't have to change anything to live how he wants to live. The junk shop can be his home and his portal to the past.
Book One sets up the text. It sets up Winston as a man living in this Big Brother society unhappily. He desperately wants to go back to the past where what we hate hasn't destroyed the world. War, slavery, and ignorance have made the world an awful place to live and Winston realizes that to an extent. He is trying to find a way to change it or live in the present happily, and he just might have found how with the discovery of Mr. Charrington and the junk shop.
Winston's encounter with the old man is the beginning of his first realization that the past is almost irrelevant to anyone else around him. He old man does not talk about the past in comparison to the present. After multiple tries and excessive frustration, Winston leaves with no new information of the past. This leads us to the junk shop where it is extremely evident just how little anyone cares of the past. Winston buys a piece of coral, appreciating its beauty as nobody does anymore. The coral can represent the information that Winston was looking for, because it can represent the past. Even though the coral was full of beauty and individualism, nobody appreciates or cares for it anymore because they are accustomed to their bland and lifelessness society. Overall, the text has laid out a background for me to establish what state the citizens' minds are in and where they may go from here. We can assume that more details will be revealed about specific classes, as we have not yet fully broken down the different groups living in this dull world.
ReplyDeleteWinston goes through a walk through the Prole district and had a conversation with an old man in the pub. The main significance of this conversation was to talk about if life was better in the old days compared to now after the revolution occurred. The old man is Winston's link to past memories. Sadly however the man cannot remember important details important to distinguishing if life as a whole was better in the past. He could not recall, because unknowingly the party has manipulated the citizens so they cannot remember things from the past. After this encounter Winston is angered because the past is left to the Proles who will easily forget it.
ReplyDeleteThe significance of Winston returning to the secondhand junk store he bought his diary from lies in the fact he desperately wants to rebel. His actions are slightly against the party even though he does not have the power to fully revolt. The fact the old man takes him up stairs to a room with no telescreens further incriminates Winston as a thought criminal. However, this encounter gives us hope that something will change. Also, after the man took Winston upstairs he told him about an old nursery rhyme that included all of London's churches. This hints at the fact there was a time in London where freedom of religion was allowed something that is banned presently. Again we see an example of how the party is trying to cover up the past in order to continue dehumanizing the citizens of Oceania.
ReplyDeleteWinston’s conversation with the old man in the pub shows us how the Proles think. The old man only seemed to care about gambling and drinking when a bomb had just gone off outside. Winston does not like that the Proles focus is solely on these objects. He hopes that they will someday be able to see the whole picture and fully understand what is happening to them.
ReplyDeleteWhile Winston was in the junk shop, he noticed a picture. This picture was of a church in London and looking at this he heard a rhyme that said all the churches of London. This picture brings us deeper into Winston’s past.
Book One is setting up the scene. It is introducing the characters and the society. It gives us an overview of what life is like in Oceania from both the Prole perspective and the Party member’s perspective. It introduces the main problems and establishes the conflict.
This signifies the barrier in education and social life between Party members and the proles. This brings Winston into a thought as to whether or not the proles will have the ability to successfully complete a revolution. He almost seems disappointed at the complete obliviousness in the proles. This ultimately changes the perspective of them, and how he thinks a rebellion must happen.
ReplyDeleteThis shows how the proles are basically left alone as far as observation is concerned. There are no telescreens and thought police in the area is minimal. It also gives Winston some insight into the past, with the rhyme of the churches that had existed in London before the revolution.
This first book, especially towards the end, was mainly to specify the barrier between the party members and the proles. We see numerous times how Orwell creates a barrier between these two classes of people. He demonstrated this through their social interaction, education, poverty level, etc. As well, this shows how Winston is beginning to realize the reality of the situation that he is present in. However, these items are beginning to consume him, and this opens up many new doors, along with the possibility of being convicted of thought crime. As a result, Winston must now learn to control every movement in his body and always be conscious of what he is doing at the time. If not, he risks death.
1. The significance of Winston's conversation is that the Party tampered with the people's memories because the old man should have remembered society before the Party took over, but like everyone else he can not remember.
ReplyDelete2. The significance of Winston's encounter in the junk shop is that he encounters the Proles and that is the type of people he would need to rebel against the government.
3. The significance of the text as it stands now is that Winston clearly does not agree with the Party or Big Brother and is clearly afraid of both of them, but he is getting more and more bolder with his diary and letters.
Winston saw the man and wanted to talk to him, because he was old enough to have been a full grown man before the revolution, so he thought the man would be able to tell him something important… well, he was wrong. The man, like most everyone else in this era, was only able to recollect very specific details from a certain experience when he was young. Unfortunately, he wasn’t able to compare his past life to his present life. This showed Winston that even if he finds an old person who was an adult before the purges of the 50s, they aren’t going to be able to tell him anything that is going to help him. He feels more helpless than ever now, as he will likely soon watch the last true portals to the past disappear.
ReplyDeleteThe junk shop was a place that haunted Winston. Ever since he bought the empty book that he uses as his diary there, he has been very hesitant to visit the place again for fear of the thought police. Now that he has visited the place again, he may be in danger, whether he knows it or not, especially considering that the dark haired girl followed him there. This will probably be significant for the future plot, but the thing that is significant right now is what he saw in the junk shop. When the man took Winston upstairs to the hidden room and showed him the painting of the church, Winston realized now more than ever that London was probably different in the past. Also, the two men at the store have probably become a valuable resource for him in his journey to explore what the past was really like.
The text was significant almost as soon as it started. This book was written in 1949 predicting what the future might have been like in 1984. When people started reading this and saw what was normal to Winston would be terrible to us, they realized how the world could easily become this and everything they were doing, like with communism, was wrong. This book helped wake people up in a world going towards complete government control. Relating to the entire book itself now: The writing in the first book was significant in putting a firm foundation in the readers head. Now that the reader knows what Winston’s world is like, the plot can thicken and more complex stuff can happen. Also, they now know how surprisingly dangerous it can be to do everyday things, like hum a song, in his world.
The significance of Winston's conversation with the old man in the pub is that they talked about whether life was better before or after the revolution occurred. The old man is Winston's link to his past memories, even though the old man can not remember important details that could help distinguish if life was better then or now. The reason he can not remember the past completely is because the Party has used phycological manipulation and propaganda to force the citizens to forget about the past. Therefore, after this conversation Winston becomes frustrated because all of the knowledge about the past is left in the hands of the Proles who will easily forget it.
ReplyDeleteThe significance of Winston's encounter in the junk shop shows that he wants to rebel, although he does not have enough power to fully start a rebellion. Since he returned to the secondhand junk shop where he purchased his journal, it represents that he is turning against the Party. When the old man brings Winston upstairs where there are no telescreens that can detect them, it categorizes Winston as a thought criminal and gives hope for a change. While the two of them were upstairs, the old man told Winston about an old nursery rhyme that incorporated all of London's churches. This gives the impression that there was once a time in London where there was a freedom of religion unlike in the present world. This, yet again, represents how the Party is gaining control by covering up and altering the past.
Looking at Book One as a whole, the significance of the text as it stands right now is that the audience is introduced to the main character, Winston Smith, who lives under a totalitarian regime as a citizen of Airstrip One in Oceania. The significance is that it represents how corrupt the society is and how almost all of the citizens are brainwashed with phycological manipulation and propaganda. However, Winston does not let the Party manipulate him. He does not like the idea of all of the rules the society puts forth, so the audience can foreshadow that he may start a revolution. Also, since Winston has fallen in love with Julia, the audience can predict that they may get caught for showing their love of affection. Therefore, Winston, the protagonist, may start a revolution and overturn the Party.
Winston's conversation with the old man in the pub shows that there are still old people alive with a memory of the past. Although those people are so old that not many of them remember the past to an extent. Although that does not mean they all are. Some may still be alive and able to recollect the past. Which leads into Winston's encounter in the junk shop. He sees a man who actually knows some things from history, and has seen pieces of history walk in and out of his store. Lastly, the upper room leaves the ability to continue the story from a safe place where Winstons thoughts can be free to linger. Which allows the book to take multiple paths going into book two. He may have been detected by the female spy. If he is than he is sure to be killed soon. Therefore his only refuge may be in that upper house disguised as one of the proles and there he can obtain more information. Although we know of the possibility of Winston being killed, he wont, because we still have two books left in the one book, so we know 1984 is going to take a sharp turn, possibly in setting and character, by turning to the proles.
ReplyDeleteThis is important because Winston wanted to talk to someone with prior knowledge of the world before Party role. The old man is a quality source because he has lived in a time before the war and he hasn't been brainwashed. He also isn't a quality source because he isn't very smart and he, along with other Proles, are only concerned with the lottery.
ReplyDeleteThe significance was in the paper weight that he bought. He liked this because it was pointless and had no significant value and also because it was a memory of the past.
Book one was very important to the plot of this book as a whole. It thoroughly introduces and develops Winston as a character. Also it sets the image of Oceania and how the government works. It shows how the people live their daily lives and how they are always controlled and watched. The setting has been initiated and the rest of the book will start to unravel after this.
When Winston talks to the old man in the pub he can see that the old man remembers many things about his past, however, the old man doesn't remember everything about his past. He remembers unimportant things which shows that The Party doesn't brainwash them as much, but also shows how oblivious the proles are to the society around them and how they don't find the society dangerous. Even though Winston is trying to trick the man into saying how society was better when he was a boy, the man doesn't realize it.
ReplyDeleteWhen Winston goes to the junk shop he sees a picture and this picture strikes up memory of a church, and then he remembers a song about the church. This is significant because it shows that Winston is getting memory back even though he's a Party member. It's also significant because it's showing how much The Party changes the past. The past was a peaceful time in London, however they tried to make it seem like it like it was a horrible time
At this point in the story, the readers can foreshadow the rest of the book. Winston has fallen in love, he obviously doesn't like the rules put upon him by The Party, and he's trying to start a revolution. Book one was introducing us to the society Winston lives in, and how corrupt it is. It shows us that many don't realize how bad the society is, however, Winston does, there is something different about him. We can assume that Winston and Julia might get caught for being in love, a revolution will begin, and since he's the protagonist, Winston will be able to overturn The Party.
When Winston talks to the old man in the pub, he is trying to get an answer to the question, "Was life better before the revolution than it is now?". He questions the man, but all he can get out of him in insignificant details. The old man is one of the few to have lived an adult life before the rebellion, and he does not recall if it was better or not. This is significant because it shows the cluelessness of the Proles. It also shows how hopeless they are and how it is very unlikely that they will ever be able to rebel.
ReplyDeleteWinston's encounter in the junk shop is significant because it is a symbol of a time before the Revolution. Winston bought his diary, which is where he writes down all his thoughts about the time before the Revolution, in the junk shop. The junk shop has antique items from before the Revolution and they are a reminder to Winston of that time and how he wants things to cange back to the way they were before.
The text as it stands now has described Winston’s character and the setting that he is being forced to live it. This has sparked a conflict between Winston and the government he is under. The text has shown Winston’s intentions to rebel against the Party and has shown how he plans to do so. It is significant because it shows that Winston will do whatever it takes to take down the Party, and that one person may have to ability to spark change.
The man in pub is one of the few other people like Winston that are different from the rest. This old man has actual memories from the past and understands that they are being oppressed. This is essential for Winston to really understand how Oceania was in the past so he can compare it to now.
ReplyDeleteThe junk shop encounter shows that he remembers that he got it from that particular junk shop. It shows that he hasn't been recently brainwashed and that he has a great memory.
The whole text is about the party being able to retain power. Book one shows every weapon that the party used to manipulate the people of Oceania using powerful propaganda like newspeak, and the children's history books. It shows to the reader what extents the party will go to prevent revolts.
Winston realizes that the proles are oblivious to what is going on after a bomb went off but the proles were worried about winning the lottery tickets. Winston realized that the proles are not capable of holding a rebellion. Winstons conversation with the old man allows Winston to try to dig deeper into the past because the man would have memory of the past
ReplyDeleteWinston bought a diary and a glass paperweight and Winston believes that the paperweight represents the past and he can somehow connect to the past through it. It is a symbol of freedom that Winston dreams of.
The text in the first part is very important in showing what Winston is like as a character. Is clearly develops the setting of Oceana and how the government operates. It shows the affect the government has on the people in controlling them by watching every move they make and some actions or thoughts may be punishable
The old man in the pub is the one person who he knows still has a strong connection to the past. He knows that the old man is probably his best shot at smoothly getting information about what the world or just Airstrip One was like before the war, because he is positive the war has not been going on for as long as the government would like them to think. The shop is just the same but the old man is able to remember through items like a piece of coral. Winston is able to get more information out of him this way.
ReplyDeleteThe book as a whole up to this point is about Winston piecing together the past and his ideas and what exactly happened before the war and before Big Brother came to be. I can assume that in book two, Winston will now bring action to these ideas somehow sand maybe try to outsmart Big Brother.
Looking back on book one and how it is significant it begins with us being introduced to Winston Smith a citizen of Airstip one living under a totalitarian government. We are quickly submerged in his life and can see how the party he lives under is so terribly corrupt. The Party and Big Brother use constant flows of propaganda to brainwash the society through psychological manipulation. They go as far to change past records so their words and predictions become the truth and there is no evidence that they ever altered the truth. However, Winston is a unique character and is not so easy manipulated by the party. We see throughout part one how he constantly talks about how he wants to rebel through things such as pleasurable intercourse and other actions. This foreshadows that Winston could possibly start a revolution. Finally, Winston is the protagonist and will probably continue attempting to destroy the party.
ReplyDeleteWinston’s conversation with the old man in the pub symbolizes the obliviousness of the proles and how they have no sense of the Party’s impact on their lives. Life in the Prole District is filthy and impoverished, with more freedom, but they lack the awareness to use or appreciate that freedom. The Party doesn’t try to “re-educate” the Proles because it feels they are too unintelligent to pose a threat to the government. This frustrates Winston, which makes his desire for a revolution to happen even stronger.
ReplyDeleteThe junk shop encounter is significant because that is the shop where Winston bought his diary. This brings back memories from life before the war. His growing fascination with the beauty and heritage of the past is symbolized when he buys a coral paperweight from Charrington. In an upstairs room, he is also reminded of the past with the absence of a telescreen. Winston feels safe and hopeful where at least parts of the past remain.
Overall, Orwell establishes the setting and tone for the rest of the novel. The characterization of Winston Smith, the protagonist, is fairly complete. The reader also understands the nature of the internal conflicts which drive the plot.
1. The significance of Winston talking to the old man and the bar was so that Winston could gather information about what life was like before the party. When Winston asked the man his questions he didn't give a straight answer and when he asked for a pint at the bar they didn't have any. This leads me to believe that the old man remembers what happened in the past, but doesn't want to say anything to Winston because of the government and the thought police.
ReplyDelete2. When Winston went to the junk shop hey man took him upstairs where there was no Tele screen. He told him a rhyme about different churches. This shows that back then there was religious freedom back then compared to today's life and cutbacks by the government.
3. The biggest significance of part one of 1984 is the difference between the proles and the party. There is also a major struggle for the citizens, expressing their emotions and love in the government. They have been taking away everything from the past and changing thing into lies by the government. The government is basically controlling everything they do. The only way that will be a rebellion is if one person from the stands up to the government and the rest will follow.
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ReplyDeletethe conversation winston had with the man in the bar is significant because it helps support the development of winstons thoughts towards the party. The old man is frustrated because he cannot simply get a pint if beer, he must get a liter or a half liter. He is asked whether it was better before or after the revolution by winston. He never actually answers him which shows that he is just as afraid of the thought police as winston is. It also shows that perhaps it was better before the revolution as oppossed to after.
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The junk shop is not a "junk shop" it's really an antique store where people could buy things from the time before the war. It is significant because it is here where Winston is reminded of a time before Big Brother and it is here where he gets discovered and captured.
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The significance of the text so far is all to develop winstons hatred towards the party. Everything that has taken place so far is to slowly convince the reader that winstons opinions are right, although nobody believes him. It pull you in to make it seem as if it is you and winston against the party, like you are winston. Orwell does a fantastic job of connecting the reader to the main character.
Winston's conversation with elderly man in the pub helped concrete his idea that the world is worse after the revolution. Talking to the old man he asked if he remembered what life was like when he was a child. They discussed items of life such as top hats. The old man hasn't seen someone wear a top in over 50 years. This made Winston realize that yes the economy has fallen apart after the revolution.
ReplyDeleteThe junk shop isn't actually a junk shop. It's more of an antique store. This store sells items that were used before the war. Winston went to this store and his memories of before were brought back and he started to remember life before the war.
The significance of book one is to set up the entire book. To set the setting and the back story for the rest. Without book one 1984 would be very confusing to read since no background was set.
The significance of the conversation with the old man in the pub is the developements that occur because of this. Winston is increasing his measures of defiance against the party as now he publicly is acting rebellious visiting the proles district. This even increases after the conversation when he becomes frustrated with the old man for not giving a direct answer. This frustration propells Winston to find answers elsewhere further risking his exposure. Winston's frustration and lose of hope in the proles make Winston want to double his efforts at the same time turning himself braver.
ReplyDeleteThe significance of the junk shop is that it's a whole other world to Winston. The upstairs proves to be a tempting illusion of a get away for him to live his perfectly fake life. But he's faced with the conflict that the more he would frequent the shop the more suspicious he would appear. This whole adventure to the proles district reveals a character develops in Winston as he becomes bolder and more paranoid.
Book One clearly establishes the situation in Oceania and Winston as the except, but it also is cliff hanger when many questions developed in book one are left unanswered to setup Book Two. For instance the dark haired women keeps reappearing and her goals are unknown, so her or Winston's next move are open for development in Book Two. The possibility of Winston using and being caught at the Junk shop are hinted to be the possible future. And the victory Tim's effect on the Party members free to be either proven true or false. The open ends Book One gives expectations that could occur or not.
The significance of Winston's conversation with the old man in the pub is that he is on a mission to find out if a rebellion is possible. He asked the man what life was like before the rebellion. Unfortunatley, he gets nothing out of him and has to continue his walk on the streets.
ReplyDeleteThe significance of Winstons encounter in the junk shop is that when he heard the lady singing, it gave him hope. The lyrics in the song dis on what could be the Party. Winston envies the women but still finds her beautiful because she still sings even though her own youth are gone.
Book one as a whole just set us up and gave us a small bit of hope for Winston and what could possibly be the greatest rebellion of all time. If Winston can manage to dig deep and be smart with his actions, he could find out a way to make it happen. It will be a very long and interesting process, but could be very rewarding for Winston in the end.
The significance of Winston's conversation with the old man shows how oblivious the Proles are towards the government. It shows the stark contrast between his hopes for a Prole rebellion and the reality of Prole existence. The old man focuses only on very personal memories that do not speak to Winston's concerns. Winston then becomes frustrated because he believes that the proles, who have not experienced doublethink and the revision of history, hold the true details of history, and could be the flame that starts the rebellion.
ReplyDeleteThe significance of Winston's encounter in the junk shop shows what time was like before Big Brother took over, and how the government has been caught in their own lie through a picture Winston receives. Winston sees great freedom in the Prole world, and it is for this reason that be believes that if there is hope the Proles will lead them there. The rhyme that Mr. Charrington remembered make Winston believe that it is his ideal of incontrovertible truth and rebellion against the Party.
The significance of Book One shows that if one can control the past, they can control the entire society. With the idea of doublethink, and rewriting the children's books to fit Big Brother's "ideal" society, they have created a community of cowards too afraid to rebel for fear that they are killed. The children have grown up in that lifestyle, so they are in a specific mindset of this twisted patriotism. They will become the new generation of the "ideal" society, while the adults need constant brainwashing and reform. If the power of the past is in the wrong hands (which it is in this case), the entire society suffers in a negative way.
Winston conversation with the old man is significant because it displays Winston's hope about a revolution beginning from the proles. Winston attempts to make a serious connection to the past by asking the man questions about the different quest regarding life before the revolution. He ask about the capitalist and how they differently were treated, but by the end of the conversation Winston becomes frustrated. The old man only manages to remember the useless details of the past. Winston begins to feel hopeless because the corruption from The Party deeply affected everyone's memory of the past even one like the old man’s. Winston was hoping to discover the truth about history and finding someone that feels the same hatred for their oppressed lifestyle.
ReplyDeleteThe significance of Winston’s encounter with the junk shop expresses Winston desire to find connections to the past and the rising of his rebellion. As Winston scans the shop he immediately notices the coral-in-glass paperweight. The paperweight signifies the beauty, past, and redemption inside Winston. The paperweight itself is a rebellion, because "anything old, and for that matter anything beautiful, was always vaguely suspect" to the Party. Winston also considers renting the room above the shop. This shows Winston's disloyalty to the Party and the rising of rebellion inside him. He is aware of the consequences of being caught in his situation, but seems to not worry so much about them. But his thoughts and action are still prevented by the Party’s mechanisms.
The significance of the text in Book One is to display the ultimate dominance The Party has over it’s people. The Party rules with an iron fist. They eliminated all sense of emotions and thought, essentially dehumanizing its citizens. They have the power to erase and rewrite history and denounce anyone they view as a threat. The Party has brainwashed children into their own obedient party members. They use youth leagues and fill them with propaganda to create the belief that they are always right. This causes the loyalty of the children to lie with The Party. They have created a new language, erasing its complexity so complex ideas are unable to be expressed. This lack of thought leads the people to a more submissive attitude, making the Party’s job easier. The use of cameras, microphones, telescreens, thought police, etc, makes it easy to monitor the thoughts, expressions, and action of the people. There is nowhere for an individual to hide or have privacy. Anyone who conveys expression of emotion, curiosity, objection, or high intelligence immediately vanishes. The Party uses the telescreens to hurl out propaganda to control the minds of the common people. Their power to reconstruct history diminishes the people’s memory. This makes it easy for the Party’s to gain the people’s trust. The Party uses everything in their power to make the people believe in and trust that everything they do is right.
This is important because Winston wanted to talk to someone that knows about the world before the Party came. The old man isn't brainwashed because he lived before the war so he is a good source. He isn't a good source because he isn't smart and is only concerned about the lottery.
ReplyDeleteThe significance of Winston's encounter is the paper weight he bought. It was a memory of the past and had no significant value.
Book One is an important part of the plot. Winston's full character is developed. A bigger part of Part One is the government and how the people are treated. They are always being watched and under control. The setting has been introduced and the rest of the book will further explain this.
It shows how people are forgetting about the past. This happens to people who have the ability to remember it as well. It also shows how much the lottery affects people. Their lives are completely consumed with things that are no longer important.
ReplyDeleteThis focuses on the paper weight he bought. It shows how the past really is forgot and irrelevant things are now severely focused on.
Book One gives background information as to where Winston stands with the party as well as the citizens. It also shows how much the citizens do not have privacy. Everything they do is scrutinized and constantly under control. As the rest of the book continues Orwell just elaborates on this all.
1) The significance of the conversation with the old man is that the past is almost completely forgotten. Even the people who were alive are incapable of remembering the important details. They can't comprehend the question so Winston will never get a definite answer.
ReplyDelete2) The significance of Winston's encounter at the junk shop just proves how antiques now hold no value. Everything from the past isn't important because the present and future are much "better" in the eyes of the Party. This is shown when Winston buys the coral that once would have been expensive but now only costs 4 dollars.
3) Part One shows that the government can easily brain wash and dehumanize it's citizens. Lies can easily be spread and they can also cause fear. Things such as vaporizing threats cause the people to behave and follow the rules of the Party.
The old man is meant to symbolize the proles as a whole, and also the work the Party has put into devastating the entire population. The man is a drunkard, he doesn't give a rip what goes on in the world besides the beer and the measurement of the mug he is given. The party obviously destroyed all hope for Winston trying to find answers to his question. It is also interesting that Orwell portrays alcohol in such a negative light; a distraction from real issues.
ReplyDeleteOrwell shows us Winston's continuous fascination with things of the past when he buys the paperweight, but also the uselessness of it because he has no paper to use it on.
Book one shows us the magnitude of the Party, its pure size is almost incomprehensible and ridiculous. It shows Winston's character as dangerously curios and somewhat ignorant, but that he is different and willing to learn.