- - - So how about the plot twist? That Orwell is a clever dog. Explain this: How in the world of 1984 does someone like Julia fall "in love" with someone like Winston? Explain.
- - - Explain how Orwell uses contrast in the scene in Victory Square.
- - - What is significant about JULIA'S actions in Part II? Support with evidence from the text.
She may fall in love with Winston because maybe she notices that he is not like the other men she has dated. She may notice that he breaks the rules and she likes to break the rules to so she may like him because they both are against the anti-sex league and break the Party's rules. He uses the contrast in this scene to show that here in the city nobody will be able to see them due to all the people and commotion in the square. There are also no telescreens to watch the two meet and decide to go out into the country. The significance is that she as the same as Winston breaks the Party's rules and like to sneak around and break the rules with other party members. It is also significant because it shows that there are more party members out there that like to break the rules like Winston.
ReplyDeleteQuestion 1: In a world of people that mindlessly obey the Party, it is hard to find someone that doesn't love the Party. Winston and Julia share common values that are different from most people's. Most likely, though, this is not love. In Oceania, the Party despises love and it is not allowed. Since Winston and Julia do not love the Party, they have nowhere to direct their love except towards those with similar thoughts. This is most likely a friendship or alliance that they believe is love. They need something to love so they express it to each other.
ReplyDeleteQuestion 2: There are multiple occurrences of contrast in the scene is Victory Square. First, the Victory Square has a statute of Oliver Cromwell. After some research, I have discovered that while Cromwell loved harsh warfare, unfair treatment of POWs, and was a dictator-like ruler, he supported democracy and personal freedom. These are the opposite of the ideals of the Party. This statue has no point. Also, the Victory Square is a symbol of freedom in war. This greatly contrasts when the POWs are driven through. It is clearly known that the prisoners are there to be tortured and killed by their enemy. This is the opposite of freedom and victory.
Question 3: Julia teaches readers that, despite what they claim and many believe, the Party is not perfect. This can be seen when Julia tells Winston about her relationship with the Party members. She also shows readers that there are others like Winston who do not love the Party. She shows Winston that there is hope for the nation because not everyone loves the Party.
Julia may not truly be in love with Winston. She is more than likely in love with the idea of him and being with him. Her past history indicates she has done things like this before. Julia has had illicit affairs with Party members since she was 16. While Julia may not be in love with Winston per say, she may love some of the things he can provide. Julia is the kind of person who like to rebel in every way possible that will not be caught outright. She preys on men who are willing to die rather than be turned over and that works in her favor. As the book progresses, the reader may found out that Julia truly loves Winston, but the possibility is unlikely. If she does love him it is because he is different like her. Winston is not a blind follower and like Julia must conceal his true feelings and consider every action. Everything about Julia represents rebellion against the 1984 society. If anyone would fall in love it would be her because she does everything in her power to maintain her true self. Julia maintains the quality of love because it has not been washed out of her. She finds love in the things she does out of rebellion like going to the place her and Winston meet at. Julia "fell in love" because it is one of the major rebellions she could preform. She is definitely in love with rebelling against society and judging it.
ReplyDeleteOrwell utilizes contrast in this scene for many reasons. The contrast makes the reader experience what Julia and Winston are. There is chaos all around them yet they are the main focus of each other. The reader is able to better understand how these two will become more and more entranced in one another. They will eventually become forgetful in their duties to society. The chaos around them may help to show the reader that although the couple is calm now they may not be like that forever. The Victory Square scene also shows the difference between the average citizen and the couple. The people are focused on the prisoners coming through and directing their hate towards them. The couple is the opposite their attention is on each other and directing love to one another. Orwell is trying to show the contrast between these two people and the average citizen. The scene also exhibit another one of the Party's control tactics. They are directing the citizens aggressions toward the war enemies and unifying the population. Winston and Julia as always are doing the opposite. The scene exemplifies the differences in Winston, Julia, and the citizens in 1984.
Julia is the instigator. She initiates most of the contact with Winston. Julia proves to be experienced in the realm of sneaking around. She knows where to meet and when. Her actions speak of her character. She is very open with her actions, hatred for the Party, and her past experiences. Julia's actions do everything to get Winston to do as she wants. Right away Julia begins to call him by names of endearment without truly knowing him. Her actions portray that she has done this sort of thing before. Julia's actions seem manipulative in Part II. It appears that everything has been thought out and contemplated. While it is not impossible that she loves Winston, it is highly unlikely. She does everything she can to reassure him, not push him, and knows just what to say. When Winston is unsure she tells him there's hurry and that they have time. Julia is obviously not what she appears. There is an ulterior motive to Julia and something off about her. She's too perfect. Julia's actions in Part II make Winston fall in love with her but the reader question her a bit.
Julia would fall in love with Winston, because as she explained to him, she could see he was different than all of the other Party members. She claims to be able to see the rebellious people. Julia, a rebellious woman herself, hates the Party and when she found Winston that feels the same, she fell in love. She may have not fallen for his appearance, but rather loved the way he shares the same feeling about the Party as she.
ReplyDeleteOrwell uses contrast in the Victory Square scene by Winston's and Julia's love admits the jeers from the crowd at the prisoners. The citizens of Oceania are directing hate towards the prisoners while Julia and Winston are showing signs of love towards each other. The chaos during the Victory Square scene represent the fall of what is to come for Winston and Julia. Their love will only lead them to their demise and downfall.
Julia is clearly the aggressive one in Winston's and her relationship. She tells Winston where to go and what to do. Her actions are significant, because it shows Winston's weakness. He may be against the Party, but Julia is definitely more assertive towards her views. She has clearly been to the country hideout before and purchased chocolate from the black market. This shows her hatred for the Party as well as the many other affairs she has had with other men. Julia wants the Party to corrupt by the animalistic instincts of humans
Julia comes out of nowhere when she says she loves Winston. Although it seems crazy, the love from Julia seems very true. She loved him the first time she saw him because of his appearance. She could see the difference in him, as he wanted more to their life than the Party and Leader. Julia feels the same way, so she pursues Winston. This makes her love him and then this creates the affection she has toward him. When they are in Victory Square, Orwell uses contrast between the crowd around Julia and Winston to show the connection they have. While everyone else is buzzing around and focused on multiple things, the two of them are just focused on each other and trying to find a way to see each other without getting in trouble. The contrast in the scene gives us the sense of urgency and emotion felt by Julia and Winston. In part two, Julia is very open with Winston about her life. She tells him all about her background and they get into very deep conversation. She tells him that she only goes into public support groups such as the Anti-sex League to make it seem as though she supports the Leader. This is crucial because Winston very easily could have used that against her and turned her in to the Thought Police, but he did not.
ReplyDeleteWhen Julia writes, "I love you", on the slip of paper it is not in the sense of actually being in love with Winston. Julia writes this because she knows that as soon as Winston reads it he will know that they are on the same side. They both share an emotional connection and have the urge to rebel against the Party. That is why they have such a strong attraction for one another because they both are aiming for the same goal.
ReplyDeleteIn Victory Square Winston and Julia are surrounded by citizens screaming and pushing to yell at the passing prisoners of the war. In all of this commotion, Julia and Winston are able to find each other and make a simple jester of holding hands. This shows that in the misted of so much hatred, there is able to be love, as small as it is.
Julia is very bold in her actions in part ll. Even in part l when Winston and Julia were in Victory Square, Julia takes charge of the matter and tells him where there meeting is to take place. Winston notices her need to take control and states this. In part ll she takes control when she throws her anti- sex league sash to the ground, and leads Winston into the woods. She shows she is in control, and this could later be dangerous for Winston. If Julia thinks she is in charge, and they start a rebellion together, they could disagree on ideas and Julia could over rule him cause she thinks she is in charge. By her declaring control, this could set the rest of the novel.
I can see Julia falling in love with Winston for one of two reasons. The plot in 1984 shows that not many people want to speak out against the party or believe anything different than what the government implements into their brains. Julia appears to be someone like Winston. They show characteristics that prove they both share hatred for the government. Julia tells Winston that she engages in many sexual interactions with people and this shows Winston that she is against the government because this is a crime. Julia can recognize Winston’s hatred and may want to team up with him. The act of love that she is claiming may be false. She may be claiming to love him because she needs him in order to rebel against the government. Another reason why Julia may have fallen in love with Winston so quickly is because she wants to manipulate him. Julia shows Winston signs of hating the party, but from using real world judgments, no one can ever be fully trusted. With my prior experience in engaging in relationships, people are manipulative because they want a greater outcome for themselves. Julia may be a spy for the party or thought police and could be planning a scheme to take Winston down.
ReplyDeleteOrwell uses contrast in the scene in Victory Square when Winston recognizes someone in the crowd. He talks about the way people in the party reminded him of foreigners and he compares them to strange animals. He also compares them to Mongols when describing their physical appearance.
Julia’s actions in part 2 are significant because they suggest that she will do anything to please Winston. The significance behind this is determining who Julia’s character really is. With her desire to please Winston, it could mean that she wants to rebel with him or that she wants to manipulate him and turn him into the thought police. Julia says, “I’m corrupt to the bones.” This is either her true identity, or it is foreshadowing for events in the future where Julia turns on Winston once she gains his trust.
Julia is not in love with Winston. She is in love with the idea of freedom that Winston brings. Orwell uses contrast by taking the hope of love between Winston and Julia and contrasting it with proles being tormented in the Victory Square. The significance is that she has been lying. When she told Winston she had been with many men he said it was a good thing because it means more Party members are disobeying laws.
ReplyDelete1) The world of 1984 has no love. Julia is able to “love” Winston because it is not real love. Winston himself says that “you could not have pure love or pure lust nowadays”. The relationship between Julia and Winston is simply an act of rebellion that they both desire. Although they may believe it is real love, nobody in Oceania is capable of feeling true emotions. The Party has taken all emotion away from citizens and has brainwashed them into forgetting the past. Julia and Winston have found each other because they both want to rebel against the government, but they still do not know what real love is.
ReplyDelete2) Orwell uses contrast in the Victory Square scene through the images of Eurasian prisoners. As Winston is in the square with Julia, he thinks about Julia while looking at the “sad Mongolian” faces of the prisoners. Orwell puts these two images together to show the difference between Julia and the rest of the citizens. It is also used to show the influence the Party has on Winston through brainwashing. At one point, Winston is thinking about the color of Julia’s eyes and is then looking into the eyes of the prisoner instead. Although he wants to rebel against the Party with Julia, he continues to be brainwashed and slightly influenced by the actions of the Party.
3) In part II, Julia’s actions include: having chocolate from the black market, knowing Winston’s name already, speaking a way no other Party member does, and leading Winston to the hiding place. All of these actions demonstrate Julia’s rebelliousness. Not many citizens risk buying items from the black market, not even Winston who has shown his disloyalty to the Party. Julia takes more risks than Winston and has never gotten caught due to all of the volunteer work she does. In the book she explains that everything she does is in order to protect herself. It is evident that she has been doing this for far longer than Winston. She knew the exact location of the hiding place, which shows that she has been there many times. The act of simply finding such a place and visiting it frequently is an extreme risk. Julia shows that she can be dangerous to the Party, Winston, and herself. Her actions in part II reveal her hatred for the Party and how far she will go to act against them.
It is odd that Julia and Winston Smith from 1984 would fall in love with each other. Their ages are so far apart and due to their daily actions to the Party they are barely able to see each other. In a world where they are constantly monitored and forced to do certain tasks it seems highly improbable that they would find love in each other. However, they do share some characteristics that drives their feelings for one another. For example, Winston and Julia both have a strong hatred for the party. They feel the party is corrupt and love any form of rebellion towards it. This is essentially what their love is a revolt against the party. It is two unique beings engaging in strong emotions with one another which is exactly what the party is trying to take away. Also, they feel alone in their own worlds being different than any other citizens and are elated to share their thoughts and feelings with someone who knows what they are going through. This is shown through Julia using explicit words when talking about the party which is something she would've never done if she was around other party members. They remain together because they share the same thoughts and feelings and want to correct the corruption the party has created.
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ReplyDeleteIn the same way that Winston sensed rebellion in O'Brian, maybe Julia saw that Winston was different and against the party too. Seeing this admirable trait could have led her to fall in love with home even from afar.
Parading the prisoners of war through victory Square shows how the party uses hate towards Eurasia and war to create a common interest in the citizens. They are more focused on foreign threats than internal ones. This is an example of part of the Party's slogan "war is peace".
Julia's little defiances such as disobeying her anti-six pledge and de-purifying herself are rebellions on more of a personal scale. This brings out a contrast to Winston's idea of total revolution throughout all of the Party.
Julia is different from the rest of the minor party members. She still has a semblance of basic human emotion, unlike almost all other people of the party. Either that, or she has obtained great acting skills. It is even possible that Julia fell "in love" with Winston because he is against the Party. It said how she could just tell that he was against them, almost like Winston saw this in O'Brien.
ReplyDeleteHe uses contrast in bringing people together to promote war. Essentially, the Party uses the parading of prisoners to promote the current war and its issues that must be dealt with immediately. This brings the people's attention away from internal problems and this dystopian society and brings it more towards the international matters, which is what the Party is attempting to accomplish with this action.
It shows how Julia does not desire to overthrow the Party, as we see how she protects herself from the Thought Police so well. This also brings out the fact that Julia is quite manipulative, using her body as part of this. It gives the reader, not only a feeling of distaste, but it also makes them wonder about Julia. I personally think that this is a trap that will not end well for Winston.
Julia's actions in part 2 of book 2 are significant and show how there are more people willing to revolt against the party. When Winston arrives at the planned meeting spot he waits for Julia in which she quickly leads him to a hideout without telescreens or microphones. Winston states how she must have done this before because she looked familiar with the setting. This shows us there are more people who are unique like Winston and are willing to commit crimes against the Party. Julia forces Winston to involve another person in his rebellion rather than in his own mind. Before Winston and Julia make love he questions her on how many times she has done this and she answered with scores of time. This answer allows us to see that many people inside the party are committing crimes and rebelling in ways against the party. This gives us hope as readers that a group of rebels will ban together and take down the party foreshadowing revolution.
ReplyDeleteI do not think Julia is "in love" with Winston himself but in love with the idea of someone sharing the same beliefs as her. She noticed right away that Winston did not favor the Party, and I believe that is why she thought she had fallen in love with him. She loves the idea of having someone she can share her feelings with and possibly even conspire with to rid the Party of its power. Julia believes the two of them are able to work together and some how break the barrier between hatred and love for one another.
ReplyDeleteContrast is used when talking about the prisoners. The people of Oceania are supposed to despise any person other than those of their own country, especially the enemies. However, when the prisoners are being escorted through Victory Square, everyone kind of gathers around in awe. They temporarily shout stuff towards the enemies, but then they some what admire them for who they are and take in their lifestyle. Contrast in used in the way the towns people view the enemy and foreigners of their country to the way they are supposed to view them.
Julia is very open about how she feels about the Party and obviously has had more experience going behind Big Brother's back than Winston has. She has learned how to play the Party at their own game by manipulating them into believing she is someone she is not. Julia has been able to hide her revolting characteristics by being exactly what the Party wants her to be, such as a Junior Spy and involved in the Anti-Sex League. Also, she has gone to the black market and found her way around the land to places where there are no telescreens and has not aroused suspicion. This shows how if she were to get involved with Winston and formulate a plan to take over the government, she'd be able to do so and keep it a secret.
1. I don't think that Julia really loves Winston and that she is the spy Winston thought her to be. She is probably working for the government and trying to get Winston killed or sent away. The party is trying to install the idea of marriage is for the party and to have kids for junior spies.
ReplyDelete2. He uses contrast in the Victory Square by having everyone in the square to see Eurasian prisoners while the people were shouting at them. Children were playing on the statues, but not Big Brothers' statue. All this was going on while Winston and Julia were having a conversation about where to meet up the next day. It's like the dark and the light, capture and freedom, hatred and love.
3. Julia's actions are a little rushed. She doesn't even know Winston and she is kissing him and already sleeping with him, in an open field mind you, and has already slept with "scores" of other party members. She isn't as innocent as Winston thought and he is happy for that. We also learn something very interesting about Julia here, she is a wolf in sheep's clothing, meaning that she shows that she is the perfect person to the party but is a totally different person when they aren't looking.
1. I think Julia is the spy Winston has thought she was, and does not really love him. I feel as if she is working for the government as an extra "watch" over Winston.
ReplyDelete2. He uses contrast in Victory Square by having everyone in the square come see the prisoners from Eurasia. All the children were playing on the statues, just not the one of Big Brother.
3. Her actions are really rushed. She barely knows Winston and is already kissing and sleeping together. This adds to the fact that she may be the spy that Winston thought she was.
It seems very unlikely that someone like Julia would fall in love with someone like Winston. This is because in the society they live in, being a Party member requires a lot of work. However, it is not possible that Julia actually fell “in love” with Winston. She couldn't love him when they barely see each other that much and don’t even talk to each other. Julia is most likely a spy sent after Winston because of his suspicious activity. The Party most likely suspects that Winston is growing intelligent and becoming aware of the Party’s wrongdoings. So, therefore, they must get rid of him or find out for sure that he had rebellious thoughts.
ReplyDeleteAt Victory Square, Eurasian prisoners are being tormented by the crowd of people. This is happening around Winston and Julia while they talk about where to meet the next day. While all this hate is going on around them, there is love happening between them.
Julia has made love to several other Party members which Winston loves because it means that there are other people like him who are committing crimes. This shows that Winston is not alone is thinking that the Party is corrupt and now if he wants to start a revolution, he would have more people to back him up other than the Proles.
Julia is not in love with Winston. This is quite clear from the beginning, as her note is abrupt and unanticipated. She knows nothing about Winston except the interpretation that he opposes the Party. It is not love. True love does not exist in this society, not as long as personal choice and physical pleasure is so meticulously controlled. She is attracted to Winston, not because of personality, appearance, or maturity, but because he is a symbol of rebellion. Sex and desire is rebellion.
ReplyDeleteOrwell's contrast forces what could be a sweet scene into spurts of positivity between sporadic moments of negativity. A Cromwell statue stands there. He, a man who exerted considerable influence when executing the king at the time, Charles I, is perhaps a parallel to Winston's potential of toppling Big Brother. Additionally, a Big Brother statue represents the ceaseless paranoia and the extra precautions the pair has to take to even say a few words to one another. They touch arms and squeeze their hands for several seconds, a tender occasion ruined, and accentuated, by the throng of war prisoners riding past, guarded by mindless military men. This is a small feat of goodness that is ironically in the midst of a crowd of people, in full view of law enforcement. Such is love in dystopia; never is love in an imperfect society perfect.
Julia's action are purely for self-interest. She does not ask about Winston or make any effort to learn about him. Essentially, she wants sex rather than emotional attachment, shown by her physical relations with many men and love of the act. She is using him. Winston is her own personal form of defiance against the Party. However, she is excellent at disguising herself as a supportive Party member, and she takes extra care to avoid microphones and cameras, so she is still afraid of what might happen to her if her actions are discovered. Because Julia is not necessarily "in love" with Winston, conflict will arise. Winston will try to reciprocate a love that is not even there, or Julia will try to keep emotions out of it.
Someone like Julia could fall in love with Winston because there is no other good in the world, so by having an exclusive relationship it creates a tension of excitement. She could have thought Winston's glances and staring at her were a way of trying to get her to notice him.
ReplyDeleteIt is complete chaos in Victory Square, so seeing people and what they are doing at the moment is hard. Everyone in the square is moving and talking, and this gives Julia and Winston to stand next to each other and talk. Unlike the mess the square is, Julia make the conversation between her and Winston very organized. As if almost she has planned this ahead of time. This is how Orwell uses contrast. By having so much chaos in the square, it gives the little moment of peace Julia and Winston get by being able to be together.
The significance of Julia's reaction shows that she is just as rebellious as Winston. With her tearing off her sash, making love to Winston, and telling him that she has done this many times it makes her character seem very dynamic. These actions are unlike her "let's follow the government" actions in the public eye. It makes her a more dangerous character when she comes off as a orderly, patriotic citizen, but inside she is a rebel, ready to overthrow the government.
I still think that Julia is most likely a spy for the party. The fact that Julia says that she has done this "scores of times" alludes to the fact that she may have done this before in order to turn people in to the party. Even Winston has his doubts about the event as he even says it was most likely a government event.
ReplyDeleteHe uses constast by showing the different sides of emotion at victory square. He shows the "love" that Winston and Julia have. However he also shows the slums that they live in.
Julia's actions in part 2 are very intriguing because she claims that she likes him. However the fact that she says that she has done this many times raises suspicion. There is a good chance that she is still acting as a spy and just getting Winston to commit a crime.
It is unusual that a girl like Julia would fall "in love" with someone like Winston because there is a huge age difference between them and they are unable to see each other often due to their daily tasks that they have to complete for the Party. In the society that they live in, they are always monitored and forced to do different tasks, which keeps them busy and incapable to show emotion. Therefore, it seems as if there would be no chance for the two of them to find love for one another. On the other hand, both Julia and Winston share some qualities that influences their feelings towards each other. They both are not in favor of the Party, and believe it is corrupt. Overall, their love for one another is a form of rebellion towards the Party. Since the Party is trying to take away all of the emotions of everyone, the two of them are revolting against the Party. Also, the both of them are able to share their thoughts and feelings freely about their rebellious views they share about the Party. For example, Julia uses explicit words when speaking about the Party, which normally she would not even think about using when speaking to any other Party member. Since they have the same beliefs and want to fix the corruption the Party has created, they remain together.
ReplyDeleteOrwell uses contrast in the scene in Victory Square with the use of Winston and Julia. They meet at this location and witness a convoy of Eurasian prisoners being tormented by a spiteful crowd. These actions are another way of the Party brainwashing and controlling the people. However, Winston and Julia are in their own little world holding hands, having normal conversations, and showing their love when they are in the midst of chaos. It also represents how they are not a product of the Party because their love for one another is a form of rebellion towards the Party. Therefore, this contrasts to all of the other citizens who live in Oceania because Winston and Julia have certain qualities that stand out against the Party unlike the rest of the people.
The significance about Julia's actions in Part II is that it express how there are more people who are taking the risk to rebel against the Party. When Winston and Julia plan to meet in a certain sport that does not have any telescreens or microphones in sight, Winston believes that she must have done this in the past because it seems as if she was familiar with the location. This represents that Winston is not the only one who understands what the Party is doing to the citizens and that there are more people who want to revolt against the Party. Julia then forces Winston to include another person in his rebellion and not just his thoughts. Also, the audience is shown that many people inside the Party are willing to commit crimes and revolt against the Party because when Winston and Julia were about to make love, he asks her the amount of times she has done this action and she answers scores of times. This gives a sense of hope for the audience and foreshadows that a group may be able to revolt and overtake the Party in a revolution.
It is very odd that Julia would fall in love with a guy like Winston because of the age difference and inability to see each other. In the government they live in, they are always being monitored and its hard for them to show emotion. It would be hard for them to love each other with these incapabilities. However, they are both against the Party and their love is a rebellion against the Party. Because they share the same beliefs and want to fix the messed up Party they stay together for now.
ReplyDeleteParading the prisoners of war shows how the Party feels about Eurasia. The Party seems to dislike them a lot. They are more focused on the threats of the foreigners than the internal ones. This is an example of how at the beginning they use the line "war is peace".
Winston's idea of contrast about revolution throughout the Party is contrasted. Julia disobeys her anti-sex pledge and depurifys herself. This shows her personal rebellions.
1. Winston and Julia "fall in love" because they both hate the party. Winston hates the party more than ever now and he presents that to Julia. When he finds out she hates the party too, it attracts both of them together. So, she "loves" him because of his hate for BIg Brother.
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3. Julia's actions in part II are important because she is beginning to commit crimes against the party like Winston is. She tears off her Anti-sex league sash and meets Winston in the country. Not only that but, they make love which is prohibited by the government. Her actions also show that Winston isn't the only one that wants change in their society.
- In the world of 1984, it is not possible for someone to fall in love with someone like Julia to fall "in love" with someone like Winston. The only interaction she has had with Winston is through glances in crowded areas. However through these glances she could see that Winston is against the Party. He is not in love with him, she is in love with the idea of using him as a tool to defy the Party.
ReplyDelete- Orwell uses contrast in the scene in Victory Square by showing the differences between the foreign prisoners and the citizens of Oceania. He shows how the difference between how the citizens are treated compared to the prisoners.
- Julia's actions in Part II are significant because they showed that she is more than eager to defy the Party. This shows that more people, other than Winston, want a change. Even, as Julia mentioned, some Party members go against the Party. This could be important in the future for a rebellion.
Orwell through Winston and Julia uses contrast in the scene in victory square. When they reach victory square they see Eurasian prisoners being tormented by the horrible crowd. This is more propaganda the party is feeding to the citizens in attempt to brainwash them. Although Julia and Winston remain calm as if they are in their own private world. They are holding each other's hands and showing their love for each other no matter the circumstances. This shows a contrast between them and the other citizens because they have unique characteristics that stand out from the party.
ReplyDelete1. In Oceania there are many that have been dehumanized by the government. By Julia liking Winston, this shows that there are more people that would like to revolt against the government. This also shows that Julia is like Winston and the way he thinks. She falls in love with Winston because they both have some emotions and know what's going on around them. The rest of the citizens have no idea what's going on with the gov and them.
ReplyDelete2. Orwell uses contrast in victory Square by using Winston and Julia. They meet at victory Square and witness prisoners being tortured by a crown. This is another way the party is brainwashing the people of the town. Even though the fight and the torturing is happening, Winston and Julia don't even notice it, as they hold hands and have normal conversations showing emotions between each other. This symbolizes that this is a form of rebellion through the love they have for each other.
3. The significance of Julia's actions, is that there are more people in the government and society like Winston. That Julia and others have the same views as Winston and would be willing to rebel against the government at any time. She shows emotions which is something the government is trying to keep away from them which is a sign that she is starting to rebel.
Julia falls “in love” with someone like Winston, but she may not truly be in love with him. She is probably more in love with the idea of being in love with him. The book reveals to the reader that she has been with scores of Party members in the past. She may believe that Winston has something special to offer her so that might be why she “loves” him. If she does truly love him, it is because he is different like her in the way that they are aware of what the Party is doing to them and must conceal their true feelings. If Winston would fall in love with anybody, it would be Julia because she does everything in her power to stay true to herself and represents rebellion. She still has the quality of love in her and is the most rebellious quality she has.
ReplyDeleteOrwell uses contrast in the Victory Square scene to show what Winston and Julia are like. There is chaos all around them, yet they remain focused on each other. The two will eventually forget their duties of society and become lost in each other. This scene also shows the difference between Winston and Julia and the other citizens. It also shows one of the Party’s tactics in how they unify the population and direct their aggression towards their enemies of war.
Julia is the instigator of rebellion and her interaction of Winston. She proves to be one who sneaks around and open about her feelings towards the Party and past experiences. She seems manipulative in Part II. She has everything planned out when meeting up with Winston and reassures Winston that she loves him without pushing him. Julia is obviously not what she appears to be, and she has an ulterior motive. She’s too good to be true.
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Julia is different from the rest of the minor party members. She still has a semblance of basic human emotion, unlike almost all other people of the party. Either that, or she has obtained great acting skills. It is even possible that Julia fell "in love" with Winston because he is against the Party. It said how she could just tell that he was against them, almost like Winston saw this in O'Brien.
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He uses contrast in bringing people together to promote war. Essentially, the Party uses the parading of prisoners to promote the current war and its issues that must be dealt with immediately. This brings the people's attention away from internal problems and this dystopian society and brings it more towards the international matters, which is what the Party is attempting to accomplish with this action.
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It shows how Julia does not desire to overthrow the Party, as we see how she protects herself from the Thought Police so well. This also brings out the fact that Julia is quite manipulative, using her body as part of this. It gives the reader, not only a feeling of distaste, but it also makes them wonder about Julia. I personally think that this is a trap that will not end well for Winston.
She fell in love with him because she saw there was something different in him. They both have similar feelings toward the party and want things to be different. Even though they only knew each other from exchanging glances they have a connection. They also know they can use each other to benefit what they want.
ReplyDeleteThe people around them in Victory Square are oblivious to each other and are more concerned with their jobs to even notice anything else. Julia and Winston are in deep conversation about next time they can meet. The contrast in the different environments show how Winston and Julia are nervous about being together.
She is very honest with him about everything which is very important because Winston could easily turn her in for everything he knows. She also has progressed their relationship by doing this. Her putting herself out there shows Winston how invested she truly is and him staying quiet shows how invested he is.
1. In Oceania many people have been manipulated by the Party. With Julia, like Winston it shows, there is more people who want to revolt against the government, than there is for what the government is doing. The reason Winston and Julia's are compatible to each other is because they both have the same emotions and thoughts toward the government. The rest of the citizens are oblivious to notice what is going on around us.
ReplyDelete2. Orwell uses Winston and Julia to contrast in victory square. Winston and Julia meet at victory square and witness prisoners being tortured. In other words this is the party's way of brainwashing the people of the town. During this fight, they don't notice this and hold hands and continue a casual conversation. This symbolizes that this is a form of the rebellion through the love they have for each other.
3. The significance of Julia's actions, is to show Winston is not alone, more people have the same thoughts as him. Julia is one of them, she has the same views as him and is willing to rebel at anytime. The government try's to keep anything with emotion away, and julia shows it. This is her sign she is beginning to rebel.
Many people on Oceania have been dehumanized by the Party. By Julia liking Winston, it shows that there are people out there who also go against the government like him. It also shows that Julia thinks the same way he does. She says she loves him because they both share emotions and realize what is going on in the world around them. All the other people have not realized this yet.
ReplyDeleteOrwell uses contrast in victory square by using Winston and Julia. Both of them met in Victory Square and see the prisoners from Eurasia being tortured by the crowd. This is also another way that the party is using their power to brain wash the people. During the torturing, Winston and Julia keep holding hands and have their normal conversations which shows their emotions between each other.
The significance of Julia's actions are that there are people out there like Winston. Also it is building hope for Winston for the potential rebellion. Her emotions for Winston show that even the government cannot monitor everything she does which is a sign that she could help with the rebellion.
In the world of 1984 someone falls in love with someone else based on detected similarities and political motives. To fall in love in this time is simply to have a common goal between two people. Because the mere meaning of love has been so distorted that it no longer represents what we see it as today and what it was before the revolution. For there are some things that the party has succeeded at eliminating for a time, but not forever. And that is the human emotion of love. Orwell is not only trying to convey the terrible society of 1984. But he is going to try to portray human love by having Winston and Julie discover it. Although since I have not read the book I do not know if he is successful and each persons definition of love may vary completely. Weather he accomplishes this is up to personal views.
ReplyDeleteWhen Julie and Winston hold hands in Victory Square, he uses symbolism to convey contrast. By showing the two holding hands for just one moment, they express that they are different from the society in which they are present. But not only that, when they break apart, and head in different directions. This represents their rebellion against the party and how they will eventually go in separate directions in organizing a rebellion but still share in the common goal.
Julia's actions show that she is an extremely good actress/liar at concealing her personality. Although it also shows that it is possible not to be detected by the thought police. Secondly it sets up the rest of the book for emotional development of Winston and Julie. We will see emotional struggles within Winston and new patterns of thought. His journal of historical facts will become more of a diary. Although the two see it merely as a act of defiance against the Party. Orwell sees no plan on continuing this relationship as emotionless, because that would lead to a dry and boring book. This book is bound to look deeply into human emotions, and portray a future that us different from today while allowing the people of the present to come to more deeply understand their humanity. Although some may disagree with his definition of humanity, and love from what can be seen so far. That is up to personal views and does not take away the purpose Orwell intended this book for. Although it would make him "wrong" in some people's eyes.
Dehumanization is a main component of the society in "1984". Revealing that Julia has feelings towards Winston means more than just Winston are willing to rebel against the government. Also, Julia is very similar to Winston comparing actions and thoughts. Although the other citizens are unaware of their surroundings involving the government, Julia and Winston are the only two who seem to understand what is happening.
ReplyDeleteOrwell conducts contrast in the Victory Square scene within Winston and Julia. Meeting at the Victory Square to see prisoners tortured is shocking to the reader as it's clear Winston and Julia both have a more human nature as they've shown before. Watching this happen and yet acting normal, holding hands and carrying on with a casual conversation, is yet another sign of ignorance that would not be overlooked by the "normal human". Despite them not paying attention, Winston and Julia are still rebelling as they show emotion toward each other. The contrast lies within the watching of the prisoners' torturing, but the presence of love between Winston and Julia.
The significance of Julia's actions is Winston is not alone. Julia displays her own signs of thought and emotion like Winston. They both are clearly willing to go against the government. Not just her containing the ability to have emotion, but actually displaying it shows Julia's want to rebel.
Julia is not in love with Winston, but seems more to love the idea of being with him because they can relate to each other. The Party has managed to create a mindless and emotionless society. The idea of being in love seems impossible. Julia was able to notice immediately that Winston was against The Party. She loves the idea of being able to confide and agree with someone about her true thoughts and feelings about The Party and not feels so alone.
ReplyDeleteOrwell uses contrast in the Victory Square to show different emotions. At the Victory Square, a group of Eurasian prisoners are tormented by a hateful crowd. The Party uses the prisoners as a way of mental manipulation. They uses this display to express how war creates cultural stability. But while all of this is happening, Winston and Julia are in their own little world. In the middle of all the chaos, Winston and Julia hold hands and have a normal conversation. They are expressing their love for one another. With all the hate happening around them, they are in their own little world of love.
Julia’s actions in Part II are significant because it shows the idea of a possible rebellion within The Party. Julia tells Winston of her previous sexual encounters with some of the Party members. With Party members having unauthorized physical encounters, this shows that Winston and Julia may not be the only ones confined with the sense of rebellion. Winston starts to believe of a widespread rebellion against the strict Party mandates possibly rising from within The Party.
This threw me off quite a bit. It's hard to understand why Julia, a young girl, falls for Winston. I believe one reason is that she may be some sort of spy or undercover government worker and has sex with party members to get them in trouble. All though both seem like they are just rebellious I think Winston has a bigger plan for the character of Julia.
ReplyDeleteAgain the contrast is shown by showing off the prisoners of war from Eurasia. This society is very comfortable with the thought of death. This scene proves that peace is found through war in this society. They are more concerned for outside problems more than internal problems.
These actions or very significant because she has an anti-sex patch on which she rips off. How does Julia have such a large sense of free will and decision making while others don't. Not even Winston. Also I found it slightly weird that Winston is attracted to her because she has slept with a lot of guys. Which from my experience that's not a very attractive feature for a girl.
Julia could be in love with rebellion, and because she is a member of the JASL, sexual relationships and love of others would be rebellion. She probably has noticed his rebellious tendencies, including his obvious hate for daily routine. There is also the possibility that she does have some sort of emotional drive for Winston. In a world where no real love exist, it would be feasible that Julia could be "in love" ,simply out of lust.
ReplyDeleteIn victory square, while other party members are going about their daily routine, Winston and Julia are breaking there routines and norms. He uses the order of the party to strictly contrast the disorder and probable confusion of the two love birds. It is also interesting that Winston and Julia meet in a place where the Parties' might is completely shown, while right under the nose of the Party, the two are breaking all the rules.
Julia's actions serve as a catalyst for the rest of the plot. Julia is a realization of Winston's dream of a rebellion, and the unorthodoxy of her and the inner party members is fascinating to Winston. Julia is the drive behind the plot, because without her, Winston would have never had the drive to make a move.
Love in 1984 is frowned upon. If not legal. So when there is only a small amount of known rebellious people who actually are willing to love it gives a limited choice. And Julia loves Winston because she has studied him and knows he is rebellious and she wants that.
ReplyDeleteIn the victory square scene Orwell uses contrast a few times. But the biggest piece of contrast is between the fierce love of Julia and Winston compared to the loveless world around them. This makes the little bit of love the two share look like they are madly on love. And they are doing their best to hide this.
Julia is the smart one in the relationship and is the one who makes the rules. She tells Winston where, how, and when to meet. This makes Winston look even weaker. Julia is also more stern with her view because she shows how she feels but Winston has yet to reveal his wishes to destroy the party.
1) They are both rebels and they love the idea of it. Sharing the same goal makes them stronger. Julia loves how Winston is older and clever and she knows they have the same views on the party.
ReplyDelete2) There is contrast in the scene in Victory Square when they are yelling at the prisoners but admit their love. They are doing the opposite of what they should be. Instead of being angry and yelling, they are instead showing each other how much they care.
3) Julia is showing Winston that she may be innocent to the public but in private she is a rebel. She wore her Anti-Sex League belt just so she could tear it off to prove its just a front.